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Sunday, April 15, 2012

SSPX Update! Holy See to make announcement about SSPX this week!

Major update from the National Catholic Register

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The Vatican is hoping to announce early next week the Society of St. Pius X’s clarifications to the fraternity's earlier response to a “Doctrinal Preamble” that could form the basis of reconciliation with Rome. But as of April 14th, those clarifications had not been received[Some news sources were saying that Rome already has the clarification.  So which is which?]

Speaking to the Register this morning, Msgr. Guido Pozzo, Secretary of the Pontifical Commission “Ecclesia Dei” – the Vatican body charged with helping to bring reconciliation with the SSPX - said “we haven’t yet received a response” but he added that the fraternity have “preannounced they will arrive at a final clarification, therefore I am hoping that at the beginning of next week we’ll be able to know their position and then take consequent positions.”

Asked whether he thought the response would be positive, Msgr. Pozzo said “certain press reports, certain information, have been encouraging but we cannot predict their response until they give it to us.”

Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said last month the society had been told it had until mid-April to clarify its position in order to heal “the existing fracture”, although the date of April 15th was not considered an ultimatum.   [Hmmm...]

In January, Bishop Bernard Fellay, superior of the SSPX, gave the society’s response to the doctrinal preamble, issued in September, which aimed at clarifying some doctrinal principles necessary for reconciliation. His response was then examined by the CDF, culminating in the Holy Father’s judgment, which was made public on March 16th.

The Vatican published that evaluation in a communiqué, saying the position of the society was “not sufficient to overcome the doctrinal problems that are at the basis of the fracture between the Holy See and the Society of St. Pius X” but invited the SSPX to clarify its position.


Officials have warned that the SSPX risks losing the historic opportunity to reconcile with the Catholic Church and that it needs to make sacrifices for unity [They have to!  But nutjob Williamson will not.  Good!  He can take Anscar with him.  Oh.  Ooops!  Wrong commentary.  Just hoping.  Weehee!]

Msgr. Nicola Bux, a consulter to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, told the Register March 25th that if the society “does not accept the offer of a pope like Benedict XVI, who has already made possible the gestures to meet them halfway, a historic opportunity would be lost, and, above all, there would be a further injury to the mystical body of Jesus Christ.”  [The monsignor nailed it on the head!  He is right.  How can we be sure the the next pope would be as much accommodating to traditionalist as Benedict?  We are even hoping that he starts clamping down on liturgical abusers starting with mall rats acting like priests!]

Msgr. Pozzo said he was “confident that early next week there will be an announcement” which will be made by the Holy See press office.

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Pray the Rosary.  Bishop Fellay asked for it and for the sake of the unity of the Church, let us do so.

Even if that "apologist" calls the SSPX dogs.

Shameful.

Well, just pray for him.

He is floating in "limbo" now.

2 comments:

  1. Sunday, April 15, 2012
    Pope Benedict XVI’s objective,factual error in Light of the World (Ignatius) p.107 is contributing to widespread liberalism and dissent in the Catholic Church. Many Catholics have just accepted the assumption that those saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are defacto,explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and to Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II.-Lionel Andrades

    SATURDAY, APRIL 14, 2012
    LIGHT OF THE WORLD ERROR SHOWS THAT THERE ARE NO REAL DOCTRINAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE VATICAN AND THE SSPX
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/04/light-of-world-error-shows-that-there.html

    'Light of the World' p.107 expresses Pope Benedict’s personal opinion or is the ordinary magisterium: the pope wrongly assumes those saved in invincible ignorance are known exceptions to the dogma and the SSPX position on ecumenism and non Catholic religions
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/04/light-of-world-p107-expresses-pope.html

    There could soon be an 'ecclesial rupture' because the Vatican does not want to say that there can be two interpretations of Vatican Council II.
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/04/there-could-soon-be-ecclesial-rupture.html

    VATICAN-SSPX NEED TO CALL TIME OUT: ERROR IN LIGHT OF THE WORLD DIRECTLY LINKED TO DIFFERENCES IN ECUMENISM, INTER-RELIGIOUS DIALOGUE, RELIGIOUS LIBERTY WHICH MSGR.NICOLA BUX MENTIONED
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/04/vatican-sspx-need-to-call-time-out.html

    HOLY FATHER ASSUMES THOSE SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE ARE KNOWN TO US: CONTRADICTS VATICAN COUNCIL I AND II
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/04/holy-father-assumes-those-saved-in.html

    HOLY FATHER MAKES AN OBJECTIVE ERROR IN WRITING
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/04/holy-father-makes-objective-error-in.html

    DID THE POPE REALLY DENY THE FAITH ON THE NEED FOR JEWS TO CONVERT ?
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/04/did-pope-really-deny-faith-on-need-for.html

    ANIVERSARY OF THE DENIAL OF THE FAITH BY THE MAGISTERIUM ?
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/04/aniversary-of-denial-of-faith-by.html

    The International Theological Commission's position paper Christianity and the World Religions 1997 has an objective factual error and is approved by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger : invincible ignorance is not an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/international-theological-commissions.html

    INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION ASSUMES ‘SEEDS OF THE WORD’ (VATICAN COUNCIL II ) IN OTHER RELIGIONS ARE KNOWN TO US AND THIS IS AN EXPLICIT EXCEPTION TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/international-theological-commission.html

    VATICAN'S INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION MAKES AN ERROR IN ITS POSITION PAPER CHRISTIANITY AND THE WORLD RELIGIONS
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/vaticans-international-theological.html

    Bishop Fellay, Fr.Schmidberger,FSSP,Joseph Fenton seem unaware the baptism of desire is not an explicit exception to the dogma
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/bishop-fellay-frschmidbergerfsspjoseph.html

    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/04/pope-benedict-xvis-objectivefactual.html

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  2. Sunday, April 15, 2012
    RORATE CAELI PULLS DOWN COMMENT: 'WHY CANNOT ALL CARDINALS,BISHOPS, RELIGIOUS COMMUNITIES AFFIRM THE LITERAL INTERPRETATION OF THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS AND ALSO IMPLICIT BAPTISM OF DESIRE AND BEING SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE'
    On the post "We are not here to criticize, we are here to maintain" on the pro SSPX website Rorate Caeli on 14 April, 2012 14:00 this was my comment:-


    I maintain why cannot all Cardinals, Bishops,Catholic religious communities Franciscans, Dominicans, Jesuits, Society of St.Pius X etc affirm the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and also implicit baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience, the seeds of the Word etc?


    The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has just to take the first step to resolve the Society of St.Pius X problem by announcing that :


    ‘the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience, the seeds of the Word etc are known only to God.’


    This is obvious! It is a non controversial statement.Other misundestandings will end.


    Example, in the following analysis written by John R. T. Lamont expressly for www.chiesa there are four points of seemingly disunity. (1) In reality there is no disunity.


    1.


    John R. T. Lamont
    "The doctrine on religious liberty, as it is expressed in no. 2 of the Declaration 'Dignitatis humanae,' contradicts the teachings of Gregory XVI in 'Mirari vos' and of Pius IX in 'Quanta cura' as well as those of Pope Leo XIII in 'Immortale Dei' and those of Pope Pius XI in 'Quas primas.'


    Lionel:
    N.13 Mirari Vos states :'Now We consider another abundant source of the evils with which the Church is afflicted at present: indifferentism. This perverse opinion is spread on all sides by the fraud of the wicked who claim that it is possible to obtain the eternal salvation of the soul by the profession of any kind of religion...'


    Vatican Council II does not opppose the encyclical of Pope Gregory XVI (1832) on this point of religious indifferentism. Since Ad Gentes 7 states all need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation (to avoid Hell).This is the same teaching as the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. There are no known exceptions to this teaching since we do not know any case on earth of a non Catholic saved in invincible ignorance or a good conscience(LG 16). We accept the possibility of a non Catholic being saved in invicible ignorance but just like the Church Fathers, popes, Councils and saints we do not claim that there are defacto known cases. Vatican Council II also does not make this claim.So the Vatican Council II text does not promote religious indifferentism.


    continued
    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/04/light-of-world-error-shows-that-there.html#links


    This comment was deleted by the blog administrator.Perhaps they believe that the baptism of desire is an explicit exception to the dogma.


    The comment which was there on the website for a few hours was followed by two comments of appreciation.


    HSE said...


    Well said, Monsignor!


    14 April, 2012 14:09


    Elizabeth said...


    Amen. I truly believe these are Bishop Fellay's sentiments also.


    14 April, 2012 14:32

    I have also received an e-mail saying:

    Thank you for your accurate thoughts and true statementS. I'm sorry they were deleted by the blog masters. EENS makes people's hair stand on end though I don't know why.


    Keep up the good fight. Your words were very well chosen.

    H.
    Sent from my iPad

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