Did I deny Vatican II. NO!

But some people claim that I do, which I don't.

Some people claim I am a "secret SSPX supporter" which I am not.

But this is who I am, and to quote Cardinal Pell who responded to the question "so people like Fellay have completely misread Pope Francis?"

Yes, it is a gigantic misreading!  In actual fact, the Lefebvrists – many of them – have misread the situation for decades.  It was to Benedict’s great credit that he tried to reconcile with them, but they didn’t respond. Now the Church today accepts the Second Vatican Council. You don’t have to accept every jot and tittle of it, but it is part of Church’s life now, there’s no way around that.

BOLD LETTERS are mine for emphasis because those are EXACTLY my views.

Now let the criticism of YOU-KNOW-WHO start.

HA HA HA HA HA

How dumb can you be?

Why, you asked?

Because there are people who think that when a priest celebrates the Tridentine Mass, he is a sedevacantist, an SSPX...

If a lay person supports that priest, and attends the Tridentine Mass, he is a sedevacantist and an SSPX supporter.

And if a blogger does all of that, he is branded a secret SSPX!

Right, Padre?

Don't deny it.

I have the screenshot.

Time to APOLOGize.

That is why we have people like this.

When you mention St. Pius X, they think you are already of the group.

Some apologetics.

BREAKING NEWS: Williamson removed from SSPX

It is finally confirmed, as TPC has broken the news before...

Bishop Richard Williamson, the Holocaust denying bishop, is removed as a member of the Priestly Society of St. Pius X!

Read about it from Rorate Caeli.

BREAKING NEWS: Bishop Williamson expelled from SSPX?

Seems like it.

Some blogs are saying that all it needs is a formality.

There was a letter from SSPX Superior Bishop Bernard Fellay to Bishop Williamson where Fellay is demanding Williamson to publicly apologize for criticizing the decision of the General Chapter.

And Williamson is not the apologizing type, eh, fellows?

So, what's next for the looney Holocaust denying "I am the only Catholic" bishop of the planet?

Can't wait for him and Miriam Santiago slug it out!

Ha!

Oh, I forgot....

Some angry guy now in the US thinks I am a secret SSPX supporter.  And who better to tell Angry Guy.....[drum roll, please.....]

Google Liturgist!

Mad man of the South.

Now, Cybercrime that!

Ha!

Paul VI to be beatified...in the near future!

Imagine the angst of Bishop Williamson for this one. Ha!


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From Andrea Tornielli

Paul VI, or Giovanni Battista Montini, the Pope who reigned from 1963 to 1978 and led three of the four sessions of the Second Vatican Council, guiding the Church through the difficult post-conciliar period, could be proclaimed a saint in 2013. After examining the “Positio” with the documents of the canonical process, in recent weeks, theologians of the Congregation for the Causes of Saints voted in favour of the former pope’s beatification, without raising any objections. Next 11 December cardinals and bishops of the Congregation will also vote. Having overcome the theologian hurdle, the final “yes” from cardinals looks highly likely.

Benedict XVI could approve what he recognises as Pope Montini’s “heroic virtues” in the next consistory for the promulgation of the decrees on beatifications and canonizations, expected to take place next Christmas. This will conclude the beatification process. Then, before the beatification ceremony takes place all that remains is for the official recognition of a miracle that occurred through the intercession of the candidate to be elevated to the sainthood. In Paul VI’s case, Antonio Mazzaro, the Postulator promoting his cause, has already chosen a healing case which initial analyses proved “unexplainable”, out of the suggestions put forward. The alleged miracle involves the healing of an unborn child which took place sixteen years ago in California.  [Unborn child!  Remember, that Papa Montini is the father of Humanae Vitae!]

During the pregnancy, doctors found a serious problem in the foetus and because of the repercussions it would have had on the brain, they advised the young mother that the only solution was to abort. The woman had wanted to follow the pregnancy through and entrusted herself to the intercession of Paul VI, the pope who wrote the “Humanae Vitae” encyclical in 1968. The child was born without problems but the family would have to wait until the age of 16 to have full confirmation perfect healing. Although the Vatican’s examination of the miracle will formally begin after the announcement of the candidate’s heroic virtues, this could all be over and done with quite quickly.

Benedict XVI has followed developments in his predecessor’s cause for beatification closely. Paul VI appointed Ratzinger Archbishop of Munich and cardinal. After beatifying John Paul II - the pope with whom he collaborated for a quarter of a century - in record breaking time last year, Ratzinger expects to do the same for the late Brescian pope, Montini. After leading the Council and concluding it with almost complete unanimity, Montini was a suffering witness at the time of the student protests of 1968 in Italy and continued to highlight the Church’s Credo through speeches and encyclicals, without ever taking any steps back in relation to the path marked out by the Second Vatican Council.

John Paul I’s (renowned for his holiness throughout the world) beatification cause is also being deliberated on alongside Paul VI’s, while Pius XII’s was approved in 2009 [no thanks to historical revisionists!!] with the promulgation of the decree of heroic values but a miracle is yet to be selected to be presented to the Congregation for the Causes of the Saints, the Vatican dicastery led by Cardinal Angelo Amato who deals with new sainthood causes.

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Lots of teeth gnashing when the beatification takes place!

SSPX - Holy See discussions turning sour?

Well, Andrea Tornielli thinks it is coming to a halt!

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Last 30 June, just days after the start of the Society of St. Pius X’s General Chapter, Benedict XVI wrote a letter to the Lefebvrian Superior, Bishop Bernard Fellay. The letter was revealed during a conference held on 16 September at the Priory of St. Louis-Marie Grignon de Monfort in France, by Mgr. Bernard Tissier de Mallerais, one of the Fraternity’s four bishops, who is renowned for his disapproval of an agreement with Rome.  [de Mallerais is what you may call the saner version of Bishop Williamson, who is the traditionalist version of Miriam Defensor Santiago, if you get the drift.]

During the conference, the prelate said: “On 30 June 2012 – this is a secret but will be revealed to the public – the Pope himself wrote a letter to our Superior General, Mgr. Fellay: “I confirm to you that in order to be fully reintegrated into the Catholic Church, you must really accept the Second Vatican Council and the post-conciliar teachings.”  [The Council did happen.  The SSPX must accept that and whatever came out of it.  To deny it or to smorgasbord it, the SSPX will be committing the same crime they are accusing the modernists, well, which quite frankly the modernists are guilty of.  They must accept it.  To not accept it and to claim that the Council committed an error is almost the same as accusing the Church as being fallible!  Unthinkable!]

“This really is a sticking point – Tissier de Mallerais said – because we cannot accept or sign something like this. Clarifications can be made as the Council is so vast and it does have its positive points but this is not the essential element of the Council.”  [Hmmm...interesting.]

The Lefebvrian bishop was very tough in some of the points he made during the conference: “Weapons cannot be surrendered right in the middle of a battle; we will not look for a truce while the war rages on, with the beatification of a fake beatification, that of Pope John Paul II. This was fake, it was a fake beatification. And with the requirement, continuously stressed by Benedict XVI, that we accept the Council and the reforms to the post-conciliar teachings.”  [And now they are questioning the action of Pope Benedict XVI.  Remember that when the pope beatifies or canonizes a dead Catholic, it is a solemn declaration that that person is enjoying the Beatific Vision and thus we Catholics here on earth (Church Militant) can invoke their intercession and imitate their example.  It is an infallible declaration that the person is in HEAVEN!  Will de Mallerais also question the lifting of the excommunication because, remember, they do not believe on Day 1 that they are excommunicated!]

Tissier de Mallerais also said that “the collegiality that destroys the power of the Pope who no longer dares to show resistance to the bishops’ conferences.” [Actually, there is nothing wrong with collegiality.  What is wrong is too much diplomacy when dealing with the bishops' conferences.  Much of what came out from Rome quite frankly is a pat on the hand.]  He added that ecumenism “allows respect for the values of salvation of false religions and Protestantism, of false things,” while religious freedom “allows the free construction of mosques in our countries.”  [Uhm....ecumenisms real end is to bring people into the one fold of Christ, Christians and no-Christians, including the SSPX who insist on staying away from Peter.  Religious freedom gives ALL people to practice their religions freely.  Where in the hell did it say that it only concerns Muslims?  Ugh.]

“Evidently – the Lefebvrian bishop said – we cannot sign such an agreement. There isn’t and never will be agreement over this point.” Despite “modernist Rome’s” insistence, [He called Pope Benedict XVI a heretic.]  Tissier stressed: “Personally I will never sign anything like this that is for sure. I will never accept that the new Mass is legitimate or licit; I believe it lacks validity, as Mgr. Lefebvre used to say. I will never accept the idea that “the Council, if interpreted correctly, could be made to correspond with the Tradition [and that] an acceptable meaning could be found.”  [So, he just said that the Church is in error and thus the promise of Christ is fallible.  Unless, they think they are the last remaining Catholics on earth, which they actually think they are....and so does other radical traditionalist groups once allied with the SSPX.  Weird eh!]

After calling the doctrinal preamble which Cardinal William Levada delivered to Fellay, “false”, the Lefebvrian bishop said some “very mild and soft” decisions were taken at the General Chapter of the Society of St. Pius X, convened last July, so as to “present Rome with such great obstacles that it would be prevented from making any new proposals to us. But the Devil is evil and I think they will strike again, so I am discreetly preparing to defend us and the Fraternity will defend itself.”  [Who the "they" is, I was hoping de Mallerais spelled it out.]

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As it turns out, there is a long way to go with the SSPX.

Vatican II is one issue that must be addressed DECISIVELY not by any Council, but by Peter himself!

I hope that THAT document will address it.

SYLLABUS OF ERRORS!

Williamson gave SSPX a reason to kick him out.

Actually, he has been doing that for quite a while now.

Because as far as he is concerned, Bishop Richard Williamson thinks that he is the ONLY CATHOLIC BISHOP walking God's green earth.

Now here is something that would, I think, put the proverbial "nail on the coffin" for this hard headed old man.

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Bishop Richard Williamson of the traditionalist Society of St Pius X (SSPX) has administered the sacrament of Confirmation to nearly 100 lay Catholics in Brazil without the approval of his own breakaway society. [He thinks he is his own Pope!]
The celebration took place in Nova Friburgo town, Rio de Janeiro state, at the end of August and was organised by the Benedictine Monastery of the Holy Cross.
On the SSPX's website on 6 September, Fr Christian Bouchacourt, the group's district superior of South America, denounced the bishop's behaviour as "a serious act against the virtue of obedience" and "an attack upon the most elementary demands of courtesy".

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I think Williamson really wanted it this way.

He pushed the envelope far too long.

Give him what he wants.

Looney Williamson wants a coup d'etat at SSPX.

I hope the SSPX formally kicks this crazy old guy out.

He can establish his own "catholic" church since he feels he is more Catholic than anyone at the SSPX.

More updates about the Rome - SSPX discussions

from the Vatican Insider

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"The recently concluded General Chapter of the Priestly Society of St. Pius X has addressed a declaration regarding the possibility of a canonical normalisation in the relationship of the Society and the Holy See. While it has been made public, the declaration remains primarily an internal document for study and discussion among the members of the Society,” Fr. Federico Lombardi, the director of the Holy See Press Office, told journalists.

The communiqué went on to ay that "the Holy See has taken note of this declaration, but awaits the forthcoming official communication of the Priestly Society as their dialogue with the Pontifical Commission 'Ecclesia Dei' continues."

In the concluding statement of their General Chapter held between 9 and 14 July, in Econe, Switzerland, the Lefebvrians [do the members of the SSPX call themselves this way?  I don't think so.] stated: “We have determined and approved the necessary conditions for an eventual canonical normalization. We have decided that, in that case, an extraordinary Chapter with deliberative vote will be convened beforehand.” [Thank goodness, wacko Williamson was not allowed in the Chapter.]

But for Mgr. Lefebvre’s schismatic [Hmm...will the Vatican Insider use the same adjective on other groups?  Schismatic?]  followers, the “canonical normalisation” which the Vatican said would become possible if the Society agreed to recognise the Second Vatican Council - one of the conditions of the “doctrinal preamble” – is a long way off. “The Society continues to uphold the declarations and the teachings of the constant Magisterium of the Church in regard to all the novelties of the Second Vatican Council which remain tainted with errors, and also in regard to the reforms issued from it,” their statement reads.

It then goes on to say that “the Society finds its guide as well in the constant Tradition of the Church, which transmits and will transmit until the end of times the teachings required to preserve the Faith and the salvation of souls, while waiting for the day when an open and serious debate will be possible which may allow the return to Tradition of the ecclesiastical authorities.”

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I still say that a Syllabus of Errors against the erroneous and ambiguous interpretation of Vatican II be brought out.

Only a definitive statement from Peter would help.

In the meantime, read Fr. Z's excellent commentary and warning against the attitude of the SSPX towards the generosity of the Holy Father.

BAM!

St. Vincent School of Theology might be in big trouble!

There is an "Eastern Catholic Church" here in the Philippines...

BUT!

This group is NOT IN ANYWAY connected to the Catholic Church, meaning it is NOT IN COMMUNION with the Bishop of Rome.  (Get that Noah?)

With that said...

They have claimed that they can trace their orders back to the Apostles.

Does Thuc and Milingo ring a bell?

Considering that these group is one of those bogus claimants to the their "Catholicity", (hello Mark Bunag!), would you even be surprised if you read one of these entries.

Mar Yokhannan Bar Thoma and Mar Shimun-Artemus Bar Tooma consecrated to the Sacred Episcopate: Mar Basillius Bar Thoma (Bishop Fredelito Bendal Palmes – Joven y Vargas) for the Eastern Catholic Church Metropolitan See of the Philippines and All Asia on December 28, 2007 at St. Vincent Theological Seminary, Tandang Sora, Quezon City.

Well, does St. Vincent care about heretics, schismatics?

Nah.

They are one!

You might say that the bogus "Easterners" just used the name of the school...

Nah.

Doubt that it is just using the name.  There is a higher probability that IT DID HAPPEN.

But they call the SSPX schismatics and heretics.

Would they let the SSPX hold a Solemn High Mass in their premises?

Nah!

Would turn them all Vincetians to dust.

Will the Bishop of Novaliches ever discipline these Vincentians?

Nah.

The monstrance containing the Blessed Lord was taken stolen from the Adoration Chapel of St. Peter's Church and NO Act of Reparation was even done.

I think Bishop Tobias does not know anything about this, nor does he ever plan of disciplining the dissent factory called SVST.

So...

Nah.

Move along.

Our bishops don't care about Catholic schools teaching heresy and dissent.

BREAKING NEWS: Stalemate!

The re-unification of the SSPX with the Catholic Church has come to a grounding halt.

from Andrea Tornielli

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In his homily for the priestly ordinations in the Swiss town of Ecône, the Superior of the Society of St. Pius X confirmed that the Lefebvrians could not sign the Vatican’s doctrinal preamble.

He had not made any public statement during the meeting with Cardinal William Levada on 13 June, in the Vatican. But today, the Superior of the Society of St. Pius X, Bishop Bernard Fellay, confirmed that no agreement could be signed with the Holy See at the present time.

During this morning’s homily for the priestly ordinations celebrated in Ecône, Fellay also made some comments about the negotiations with Vatican leaders.

You can listen to the homily - which lasts approximately half an hour - by clicking on this link. The passage about the Society’s relations with Rome can be heard when the player gets to 21.50. “You rightly ask me how things are going with Rome.” The Lefebvrian superior said, before going on to add: “Things are currently at a standstill.”

“There has been a lot of back and forth, exchanges, letters and protests - Mgr. Fellay added – but we are back to square one.” The bishop recalled: “We said we could not accept, we could not sign; that is all.”

This confirms the content of yesterday’s communiqué issued by the Lefebvrians after the meeting in the Vatican. They also hinted at the need for new clarifications and discussions. In his homily, Fellay also confirmed the opinion expressed in the letter sent by the Secretary General of the Society of St. Pius X to district superiors on 25 June, ahead of the next general chapter: the last version of the doctrinal preamble which was discussed by cardinals of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and approved by the Pope was defined as “unacceptable”.

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I can only speculate who is working against the reunification...

Something happened during the sending of the draft from the CDF to the Pope then from the Pope to the CDF...

Imagine if Fellay were not elected superior general during the next SSPX chapter and the preamble hasn't been signed yet!



More prayers please!

The minions of the Evil One are against this!

Because Vatican II is not a Dogmatic Council!

From the Catholic Herald

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The leader of the traditionalist Society of St Pius X has said talks with the Vatican demonstrate that “Rome no longer makes total acceptance” of the teachings of the Second Vatican Council a condition for his group’s full reconciliation with the Church.

Accepting the Council’s teaching is no longer “a prerequisite for the canonical solution” of the status of the society, according to Bishop Bernard Fellay, superior general of the SSPX.  [Which keeps the heads of the liberals on a tailspin!  hahaha]

In an interview published today on the society’s news site, www.dici.org, Bishop Fellay said it was the Vatican that approached the society, and not the society that went to the Vatican, asking to begin the talks.  [Because that is what a true shepherd does.  He goes out of his way to bring back the lost sheep.  As Fr. Z calls him, Pope Benedict XVI is the Pope of Christian Unity!  Unlike other bishops who ostracize their own flock just because they either: show devotion to the Latin Tridentine Mass or would want Communion on the tongue either standing or kneeling, or support traditional groups like Opus Dei]

“So the attitude of the official Church is what changed; we did not,” he said. “We were not the ones who asked for an agreement; the Pope is the one who wants to recognise us.”  [Because the Pope has shown his genuine concern for the group right back in 1988 when he, then Cardinal-Prefect of the CDF was in direct contact with the Society's founder itself.]

In 2009, Pope Benedict XVI lifted the excommunications that had been incurred by Bishop Fellay and other SSPX bishops when they were ordained without papal permission 11 years earlier. [If the three other bishops of the SSPX continue their "more-Catholic-than-thou" attitude, expect that excommunication to get back at them!]  Also in 2009, the Pope established a Vatican committee to hold doctrinal talks with society representatives.

In September 2011, the Vatican gave Bishop Fellay a “doctrinal preamble” outlining “some doctrinal principles and criteria for the interpretation of Catholic doctrine necessary to guarantee fidelity” to the formal teaching of the Church. Neither the Vatican nor the SSPX has made the text public, but the Vatican said it leaves room for “legitimate discussion” about “individual expressions or formulations present in the documents of the Second Vatican Council and the successive magisterium” of the Church.

Bishop Fellay submitted his first response to the document in March, but the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, with the approval of Pope Benedict, defined it as “insufficient”. The bishop gave the Vatican his second response in April and, as of June 7, it was still under study at the Vatican.

In the interview on the SSPX website, Bishop Fellay said: “We are still not in agreement doctrinally, and yet the Pope wants to recognise us. Why? The answer is right in front of us: there are terribly important problems in the Church today.”  [Hey!  The theologians at Belgium and here at MST, SVST, Euntes are not in agreement doctrinally yet they are in GOOD STANDING with the Church?!?!  Goodness me!]

The reconciliation talks, he said, are a sign that the Catholic Church has begun to recognise it needs to recover traditions and traditional teaching eclipsed by the Second Vatican Council. If the SSPX were to reconcile fully with the Church, Bishop Fellay said, its members would continue to denounce “doctrinal difficulties” in the Church, but would do so while also providing “tangible signs of the vitality of tradition” in its growing membership and vocation rate.  [Doctrinal difficulties, hmmm... Leaves a lot of room for interpretations from both ends of the theological spectrum, eh?]

Speaking to members of the SSPX who are wary of reconciliation, Bishop Fellay said “one of the great dangers is to end up inventing an idea of the Church that appears ideal, but is in fact not found in the real history of the Church”.

“Some claim that in order to work ‘safely’ in the Church, she must first be cleansed of all error. This is what they say when they declare that Rome must convert before any agreement, or that its errors must first be suppressed so that we can work,” he said.

But the reality of the Church’s history shows that “often, and almost always, we see that there are widespread errors” and that God calls holy men and women to work within the Church to correct the errors, Bishop Fellay said.

“We are being asked to come and work just as all the reforming saints of all times did,” he said. [Wonderfully said!]

Bishop Fellay said he did not have a timetable for the conclusion of the talks. “There are even some who say that the Pope will deal with this matter at [the papal summer villa in] Castel Gandolfo in July.”

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Some say it is a done deal but that the announcement is just being delayed.

But these are all conjectures and we still have to wait the official announcement from the Holy See.

As I have said time and again...

The true aim of ecumenism is to bring back the lost sheep into the one fold of Jesus Christ.   The brand of ecumenism we had right after Vatican II is to make the Catholic Church more like ALL of the religions of the world.

That is why you have dancers at Mass which was never a part of Catholic heritage....

Communion in the Hand....

Nature or Eco-friendly liturgy....

Priests and Nuns fighting to save the planet instead of our immortal souls...

Thank the Lord for Pope Benedict XVI.

SSPX Update: Williamson loyalist confirms it!

Based on this video, this is what we can sum up as observed by J. Christopher Pryor:

1. Bishop Williamson is actively working to undermine Bishop Fellay by attempting to thwart a reunification with Rome.

2. Bishop Williamson, Bishop Tissier de Mallerais and Bishop de Gallareta are united against the Holy Father and Bishop Fellay.

3. The SSPX might have already reunited with Rome if it were not for the leaking of the letter of the three bishops against Bishop Fellay.

4. The letter of the three bishops against Bishop Fellay was leaked by someone in the Williamson camp with the intent of thwarting a reunification of the SSPX with Rome.

5. The Williamson camp is hoping to stall an agreement long enough to take over at the SSPX General Chapter this summer.

6.The Williamson camp is apparently meeting with lawyers to discuss how to obtain SSPX owned property in the event of a split.

7. The Williamson camp is counting priests to determine how strong their position is. There is frustration that some priests keep "switching sides."

8. The Williamson faction believes that, in the event of a split, they have good control of the English district, Mexico and Asia.

9. Williamson's folllowers believe Rome has lost the faith. (They call it "New
Rome" or "Modernist Rome".) They believe that they can reunite with Rome only when "the Papacy returns to the faith."

The split is real and I think the reaction against the unification do not come only from within the SSPX. There are those within the Vatican who do not want this to happen. And the Vatican Leaks scandal has something to do with this.

BREAKING NEWS: SSPX Schism real!

A new website was set-up by those preparing to leave the Society if and when the reconciliation of the SSPX with Rome becomes final.

SaveSSPX.com came out with this appeal.

Show your support here for priests of the Society of St. Pius X wishing to remain true to their founder's mission.

The Conciliar Church has not changed significantly since Vatican II, nor has the need for the SSPX disappeared. The Crisis in the Church is not over. The role of the SSPX as an international, uncompromising witness to Catholic Tradition is crucial, especially now. There can be no practical agreement with Rome without a doctrinal foundation: the errors of Vatican II must be resolved. Before any re-integration with Rome should be considered, the Pope must be willing to renounce Modernism and everything that flowed from it.

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Here is the letter of the website administrators:

May 24, 2012

Dear SSPX Supporter,

We humbly ask you to spread the word about our apostolate.

This Sunday, after Mass, let your trusted friends know about SaveSSPX.com.

By phone, e-mail, Facebook, etc. let your family and friends know that there's a website designed to show support for any priests who are *at this very moment* wondering what they will do if a deal is brokered with Rome.

SaveSSPX.com is not a discussion forum. It is a head-count for how many people are against an agreement, and a show of solidarity with the SSPX priests who hold the same position. So the more names on SaveSSPX.com, the better!

The more names on the list, the more priests will find the courage to resist the sellout deal, even if it means saying Mass in humbler places such as garages and hotel rooms.

Next Sunday is Pentecost, and the end of May is only 1 week away.

Some say, "Because the opposition of the 3 Bishops has been made known, the deal has been thwarted or at least postponed." but we are not so sure about that. Think about it. Wouldn't Rome be quite content with over 3/4 of the SSPX? Remember, the "new SSPX" would get almost 100% of its buildings, because of the way things have been set up.

The only parts of the SSPX that won't go along with a deal are a large portion of the Laity, and some of its Priests.

So wouldn't the Modernists still get their "death blow" to the SSPX, even if a small part of the SSPX breaks off and starts a new group? Of course they would. The new group would start out with 3 Bishops, ?? priests, hundreds of laymen, and 0 buildings.

The goal of SaveSSPX.com is to make sure that number of priests is 20 instead of 10. Or 35 instead of 25. Or 150 instead of 50. Priests are only human; they don't want to starve. We need to let them know we support them, so it is easier for them to make the right decision.

God bless you,

The SaveSSPX.com Administrators 

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The threat of a Schism is real and this shows it.

Hans Kung, the comedian

or might I say, the heretic?

The ultraliberal modernist theologian Hans Kung called Benedict XVI an invalid pope.  Oh, he also is a signatory of Church 2011,a memorandum containing the demand for reform of the Roman Catholic Church in response to the sexual abuse scandal among German priests.

The memorandum demands the following:

1. Structures of participation: more participation of all people in the Catholic Church, particularly through election of bishops and priests;
2. Parish community: more help for Catholic communities, with a more explicit sharing of responsibilities. Married priests and women as priests should be allowed;
3. Legal culture: the Catholic Church should initiate a church jurisdiction;
4. Freedom of conscience: respect for individual conscience, particularly for divorced people, who want to marry again, and for homosexual civil unions;
5. Reconciliation: greater reconciliation of the church to her own history; and
6. Worship: reform of the Roman Catholic liturgy (with greater modern influence, and more influence from the cultural life of countries).

Among the signatories of this document are Filipino theologians teaching at The Forbidden Forest, somewhere in E. Rodriguez Ave., Quezon City.

So, Kung now is also a sedevacantist.

Why the rant?

Just because Benedict is advancing the reunification of the SSPX into the Church.

Will similarly minded priests who hate the SSPX say the same thing?

Anything sedevactist tags here?

Any Luciferian tags there?

Or SECRET SSPX DOG over here?

The latest buzz word is that the Pope will release the decision on Pentecost Sunday.

Thank God for Pope Benedict XVI!

Oh, I also have this button sent to me.

Thanks to dear Bro. Jay for sending it.

Recent updates on Vatican - SSPX discussions

Vatican City, May 16, 2012 / 10:25 am (CNA/EWTN News).- The Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has announced it will hold separate talks with the superior general of the breakaway traditionalist Society of St. Pius X and each of its three other bishops to try and acheive reconciliation.

“The text of the response of Bishop Bernard Fellay, received on 17 April, 2012, was examined and some observations, which will be considered in further discussions between the Holy See and the Society of St. Pius X, were formulated,” said a communique issued May 16.

The statement was published after a quarterly meeting of the Ordinary Session of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

The 16-person committee – known as Feria Quarta – met this morning to discuss the modifications made by the Superior of the Society of St. Pius X, Bishop Bernard Fellay, to a “doctrinal preamble” prepared last year by the Vatican. The document establishes a framework for agreement on some key issues of Church doctrine, including acceptance of the teachings of the Second Vatican Council.

In contrast to Bishop Fellay, the Society’s three other bishops seem hostile to the idea of reconciliation with Rome.

Today’s Vatican communiqué said the situations of the three other bishops “will have to be dealt with separately and singularly.”  [Excellent solution, IMHO!]

Earlier this month, Bishops Bernard Tissier de Mallerais, Alfonso de Galarreta and Richard Williamson sent a letter to Bishop Fellay warning that an agreement with the Vatican would see the Society “cease to oppose the universal apostasy of our time.”

They also argued that the Second Vatican Council “did not just include particular errors but represented a total perversion of the mind, a new philosophy founded on subjectivism.”

Pope Benedict XVI was dismissed by the three Pius X Society bishops as a “subjectivist.”  [Almost to the point of calling Pope Benedict XVI an anti-pope!]

Prior to today’s statement, many observers thought it was possible that the committee would announce an agreement with the Society that could be presented to Pope Benedict XVI for his judgment.

Feria Quarta consists of some of the Vatican’s senior curial figures, such as Secretary of State Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone [Uhm..] and several bishops from key dioceses, including Cardinal Christoph Schonborn [ugh!] of Vienna and Cardinal Jean-Pierre Ricard [uhm....]of Bordeaux. It is chaired by the Prefect of the Congregation, the American Cardinal William Levada.

The Society of St. Pius X was founded by Archbishop Marcel Lefebrve in 1970 as a response to what he described as errors that had crept into the Catholic Church following the Second Vatican Council. Its relations with the Vatican became strained in 1988 when Archbishop Lefebrve consecrated four bishops against the orders of Pope John Paul II.

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Archbishop Lefebrve was one of the many conservatives during Vatican II.  He was particularly critical of the reform of the Mass.

It was just the TLMass which the nutty and modernist liturgists want to destroy that led to the rupture, well of course including the illegal consecration of the four bishops.

Let us all pray and hope for the full reconciliation of the Society to the One Church of Jesus Christ that persists ONLY in the Catholic Church which is shepherded today by the Successor of St. Peter, Pope Benedict XVI.

The reintegration of the Society back into the Church will bring much fruit, you can bet on it.  We have to thank them, in a way, because it was through their actions that the Traditional Movement in the Church came about, whether you accept it or not.

Take it from a SECRET SSPX DOG!

Hahahaha!

Sorry can't help it.


PS:    I know that this arrogant apologist would insist that the SSPX deserve all the insult and bad-mouth that he trashed out to them.

But did the Holy See do it that way?

Did Blessed John Paul and Pope Benedict XVI did it that way?

I remember an abrasive and verbally abusive character of a priest like that back in my high school days.

And quite frankly, priests like this give a bad rep to the Catholic priesthood.

Shame on you!

The SSPX is coming back home

Based on this interview, it will happen.

I saw this on Rorate and WDTPRS and I am posting it here too.

Brewing storm inside the SSPX

The reconciliation of the SSPX and their Personal Prelature is almost a done deal.  But the hardliners inside the SSPX are making their intents known:  No compromise with modernist Rome.

It is the same as saying that the Church only exists in them and they do not acknowledge Benedict XVI as Pope.

Read the letter of Bishop Fellay by visiting Rorate Caeli.

PS:  I will comment about the letter in another post.

SSPX: Either closer to Rome...or to another division

This video has been brought to you by your friendly neighborhood SECRET SSPX!

Ha!



Wah? 5 million French Catholics regularly go to Mass? Honestly I am surprised by this! :)

Rome Reports: SSPX nearing to full reconciliation!