Two popes speaking out against clapping inside a Catholic church

“I am very glad to have come here. But if I must express a wish, it is that in church you not shout out, that you not clap your hands, and that you not greet even the Pope, because ‘templum Dei, templum Dei.’ (‘The temple of God is the temple of God.’)

Now, if you are pleased to be in this beautiful church, you must know that the Pope is also pleased to see his children. But as soon as he sees his good children, he certainly does not clap his hands in their faces. And the one who stands before you is the Successor of St. Peter.” (St. John XXIII)

In case you forgot, St. John XXIII was the pope who called that overly hyped Vatican Council II.

And this one of course.

Gregorian Chant? What is that?!

There was once a Synod of Bishops that recommended to the pope something about Gregorian chant...

The pope came out with an Apostolic Exhortation and in it he said:

"Finally, while respecting various styles and different and highly praiseworthy traditions, I desire, in accordance with the request advanced by the Synod Fathers, that Gregorian chant be suitably esteemed and employed as the chant proper to the Roman liturgy."

Issued in 2007....back to the present....have you heard Gregorian Chant in your church, chapel or oratory lately?

The Synod of Bishops this coming October is already being seen as a "dissent fest" of epic proportions.

Only thing I could think of is to do what most modernist bishop and priest did in 2007.

IGNORE.

And for faithful Catholics who are now scandalized by the open and brazen declaration of heresy of cardinals, bishops, priests and nuns, I stay...

IGNORE THEM!

Stop donating to their causes!

It's time for faithful Catholics to support ONLY faithful cardinals, bishops and priests!
 
These "C"atholics do not deserve to be supported.

Pray for them and stop giving your donations to them!

Meanwhile, somewhere in Molo, Iloilo

Not even the gnarly little fingers of Geny can influence the priests here to take away the crucifix at the center of the altar!

Bring back the crucifix at the center of the altar, not on the side, but at the center and on the altar!

This is the Benedictine Altar arrangement.  Benedictine meaning from the liturgical influence of Pope emeritus Benedict XVI and not the Benedictine monk who started the liturgical nonsense in the country.

TPC Kudos to the parish priest of St. Anne Parish in Iloilo!  You make your church befitting as a house of worship!  God bless you Father!!!

Kudos too to the TPC reader who sent this via Facebook.

Romero Beatification: It was Benedict XVI, not Francis

The cause of Archbishop Oscar Romero took a rather interesting twist.  Not the cause itself, but who really worked to fast-track the cause of the murdered Salvadoran archbishop.

Here is what he said in 2013.

"Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia, president of the Pontifical Council for the Family and the official promoter of the Cause of the Archbishop Romero of San Salvador, made the announcement in a homily on 20 April, just a few hours after a meeting with Pope Francis.

The archbishop, who was preaching at a Mass in the town of Molfetta, to mark the 20th anniversary of the death of the diocese’s Bishop Antonio Bello, said: “Today, the anniversary of the death of Don Tonino, the cause for the beatification of Archbishop Romero was unblocked.”

Fast-track to 2015, the same archbishop said:

The monsignor who spearheaded the saint-making process for El Salvador's slain Archbishop Oscar Romero said Wednesday it was Pope Benedict XVI — and not Pope Francis — who removed the final hurdle in the tortured, 35-year process.

Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia told reporters Benedict "gave the green light." Speaking a day after Francis declared that Romero died as a martyr for the faith, Paglia said Romero's beatification would likely be within a few months in San Salvador.

Better we clear this up or we'll have the rabid media ganging up on the pope emeritus again.

Wasn't he described as God's rottweiler?

Yeah. Right.

 

The new coat of arms of Benedict XVI?

 

 

 

These were all suggestions presented to the pope emeritus which he did not concern himself with.

The former pontiff is now preoccupied with prayer and writing books and recently his first selfie.

 

 

Thank you for Summorum Pontificum.

Personally speaking, that motu propio draw the world's attention to our liturgical heritage and made the world think, especially the young generation about the importance of the liturgy in their lives as Catholics.

 More ordinations, anyone?

 

Rorate calls out critics of Benedict XVI

Pope Benedict delivering the famous Regensburg address (photo from NBC News)

 And rightly so!

How the western media and the liberals heavily criticized Pope Benedict when he quoted Manuel II Palaiologos during the Regensburg address:

“Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”

Islam is a religion of dominance!  It will use all possible means, violence of course, in order for it to spread.

Cardinal George Pell was quoted as saying ""They showed the link for many Islamists between religion and violence, their refusal to respond to criticism with rational arguments, but only with demonstrations, threats and actual violence,"

It was born by the sword.  Do not be surprised if dialogue for peace is possible in this religion.


Now anyone questioning this?

PS:  The lecture is about the disdain for religion of the West.  Just in case you didn't know.

How is Papa Bene

A Sunday treat for everyone! A sneak peek into the Pope Emeritus's residence.

Simple and elegant. Humility written all over the place

Books. Books everywhere. These keeps the Holy Father's mind alert and fresh. Hopefully he writes a book soon.

More books!

The icon of Our Lady was given by Pope Francis himself when he 1st visited Pope Emeritus Benedict after his election.

BREAKING NEWS: Pope Francis hints that he may resign too.

The Pope was interviewed in the Spanish newspaper La Vanguardia.

You can read the full English translation of the interview here.

The pope discussed a lot of things and mentioned about the teaching of Benedict XVI about the relationship of science and faith.

But when he was asked about the renunciation of Benedict XVI, he made this comment.

He also mentions that before the conclave, he already submitted his resignation to Benedict XVI after reaching 75.  He said he was already ready to retire and get back to the parish life.

But we know how things changed when he was plucked out of Rio and into the Vatican.

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What do you think of the renunciation of Benedict XVI?

Pope Benedict has made a very significant act. He has opened the door, has created an institution, that of the eventual popes emeritus. 70 years ago, there were no emeritus bishops. Today how many are there? Well, as we live longer, we arrive to an age where we cannot go on with things. I will do the same as him, asking the Lord to enlighten me when the time comes and that he tell me what I have to do, and he will tell me for sure.


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Two things to consider here.

The Holy Father praises the act of supreme humility of the pope emeritus.

Second, he was valid in his argument about having bishop emeritii.  There were none before.  But because of the advancement in science, men live longer.

Thirdly, he too will make the decision if the Lord tells him to do so.

Of course, seeing him now, he is like a young St. John Paul II.  He is full of energy.

We may not see that in the near future.  But it all depends upon the him and the Lord.

No one holds the KEYS as a right.

It is a very very very great privilege.

And it is such a burden.

Only the man can say when he has done enough to hold the keys.

And it takes courage and humility to do that.

Imagine that!  A man letting go of the keys of the kingdom of heaven.

While one boisterous cleric refuses to let go of his "ministry"...

St. Celestine's relics are revested

This is quite "old" as this was done last year, but better post it than never, no?

This is the relic of St. Celestine V, the humble monk elected pope who then resigned after a few months as pope to return to his old life as a hermit.

This is the skull of the saint.

 

Note the arrow.  It points to a hole on the skull fueling speculation that he died from it.  Forensic experts studied the skull and noted that the hole was done post mortem, therefore it was not the cause of death.

 

 

Scientists scanned the skull using 3D imaging to create the likeness of the saint.  They created a silver mask to cover the skull.  They had to change the face mask because it was starting to melt and it was not the features of the saint.

The old mask was of wax, and had the appearance of Cardinal Carlo Confalonieri, from March 27, 1941 al 22 February 1950 Archbishop of L'Aquila

You can check the 3D computer images of the face of the saint here.

 

 Here is the relic of the saint, fully vested in his pontifical.  Note the pallium.  Yes, that is the inaugural papal pallium of Benedict XVI which he left on the casket of St. Celestine when the pope emeritus visited La Aquila after the deadly 2009 earthquake

 

The hermitage of St. Celestine can be seen here.

 

 

 

 L'Aquila, Italy, Jul 4, 2010 / 11:30 am (CNA/EWTN News).- Before leading the Angelus prayer from the Italian city of Sulmona he visited on Sunday, the Holy Father proposed Mary as "the perfect model of obedience to the divine will." He hoped also for increased appreciation of the simple life, as St. Celestine lived it, and the subsequent freedom of heart and mind that opens us up to sharing.

 

During the visit for the occasion of the 800th anniversary of the birth of St. Celestine, the Holy Father led thousands of faithful in the recitation of the Marian prayer after Mass in the town square.

 

He prayed that the people of God would be able to "walk joyously and united on the path of faith, hope and love" and that, "faithful to the inheritance of St. Celestine, we may always know how to put evangelical radicality and mercy together, so that all who seek God may find him."

 

St. Celestine was a 13th century hermit that became Pope Celestine V. His remains are now housed in the crypt of Sulmona's Cathedral of San Panfilo, where Benedict XVI will pay a visit Sunday afternoon to host an encounter with area youth.

 

Turning to Mary, "Virgin of silence and of listening," Benedict XVI said that, in her, St. Celestine "found the perfect model of obedience to the divine will," as he lived  a simple and humble life, seeking the "truly essential" and thanking the Lord always as he recognized "in everything the gift of His goodness."  [The pope emeritus must be thinking about his resignation here, no?]

 

Turning to the present, the Pope said "also we, who live in an age of greater comforts and possibilities, are called to appreciate a sober lifestyle, to keep our hearts and minds freer and to be able to share our possessions with our brothers."

 

He prayed that "Holy Mary, who encouraged the first community of disciples of Jesus with her maternal presence, help also the Church of today to give good witness to the Gospel."

 

Following the Angelus prayer the Pope met with the bishops of the local Abruzzo region for lunch at a newly restored house for elderly and sick priests inaugurated as the "Benedict XVI" house. After lunch he was scheduled to meet with a delegation from the local prison.

 



 

Here is one of the doors of the Cathedral of San Panfilo, where the relics of St. Celestine are now housed.  The mosaic recalls the visit of Benedict XVI and the papal declaration of the Year of St. Celestine.

 

 

And here is Benedict XVI, back when he was still sitting on the Chair of Peter, praising the humility of St. Celestine.

  

 

 

 

Get that?

 

HUMILITY.

 

Not with simple vestments or smiling always on camera.


 

The ring of Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI

I can't help my trained eye to notice what the pope emeritus was wearing during the Canonization Mass.

You have to click the image for a larger view.

 

As most of us knew now, the pope emeritus is not wearing the Piscatorial Ring anymore, of course, since he is not the reigning pope.

As you can see, he is wearing a different ring.

Here is a close-up of his ring.

And you can see his papal coat of arms on the cane.  No, he is not pope anymore so stop that conspiracy theory.

And here is another image of the pope emeritus and his ring.

And here is the close up of that ring.

It is called the Conciliar Ring or the Episcopal Ring of the Council Fathers or more famously known as Vatican II Ring.

Here is another view of the ring.  You can see that this is an open type so it is perfect for anyone with varying ring sizes considering that these rings were made without asking the Council Fathers their ring sizes.

This was given to all the Council Fathers after the closing session of the Council by Pope Paul VI.

(Sedevacantists:  Cue video clip of Sauron giving the rings of power to elves, dwarves and men!)

I personally saw this on one archbishop who was a Council Father.  I kissed it and he let me take a good look at it.

Considering the number of Council Father, I think the material is rather cheap and this is easily done.  The back of this ring open so it can fit any ring size.

But in some aspects, I like the design.

Father Ratzinger was a peritus (expert) for Joseph Cardinal Frings of Cologne.  He certainly was not a Council Father so he definitely did not receive this ring.

This might be from Cardinal Frings or from another bishop.

So, for the liberals, Benedict XVI was a traitor of the Council.  See the ring?

For the traditionalists, he is an apostle of the Council.  Summorum Pontificum?  SSPX reunification efforts?

As far as I can still remember the Pope emeritus is the pope of Christian Unity and of the hermeneutic of continuity.

And even if you produce 1 million Anscar Chupungco's or 1 billion Genaro Diwa, it would still not suffice for one Joseph Ratzinger in terms of sound theology and liturgy.

Continuity (Ratzinger)

Rupture and Innovation (Chupungco and Diwa)

If there is one humble man the whole world is missing with all the hoopla about the simplicity of Pope Francis, it is Benedict XVI.

Only a humble man can admit that he is done enough and it is time to step down.

One of my favorite moment in the canonization Mass

The arrival of His Holiness Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI

A truly historic day

Popes John XXIII and John Paul II

Canonized by Pope Francis

With Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI concelebrating.

BREAKING NEWS: "Maria Divine Mercy" messages "are in contradiction with Catholic theology"

From the official website of the Archdiocese of Dublin, Ireland.

STATEMENT OF ARCHDIOCESE OF DUBLIN 

ON THE ALLEGED VISIONARY “MARIA DIVINE MERCY” 

Requests for clarification have been coming to the Archdiocese of Dublin concerning the authenticity of alleged visions and messages received by a person who calls herself “Maria Divine Mercy” and who may live in the Archdiocese of Dublin.

Archbishop Diarmuid Martin wishes to state that these messages and alleged visions have no ecclesiastical approval and many of the texts are in contradiction with Catholic theology.

These messages should not be promoted or made use of within Catholic Church associations.


***

This is "Maria Divine Mercy"

Among her "messages" are:

• Pope Benedict XVI is the "last Pope on earth, Benedict XVI, chosen by Me [Jesus] to lead My Church during the last days" (source).
• Pope Benedict would be forced from office: "Pope Benedict XVI, will be ousted from the Holy See in Rome" (source).
• This will be due to a plan that was launched "within the corridors of the Vatican" (source).
• Now that he has resigned, "They will now try to kill him . . . They will say that he was guilty of a crime of which he is totally innocent" (source).

And..............

• In Pope Benedict's place, a new antipope will be elected: "The false prophet will now take over the Seat in Rome" (source). "[T]hey will bring God’s children under the rule of the little horn, who will sit in pompous splendour in the Seat of Peter" (source).
• This antipope will announce a plan to merge world religions: "Seated in the Chair of Peter, this imposter will shout aloud and proudly proclaim his solution to unite all churches as one.  Hailed as a modern innovator, he will be applauded by the secular world because he will condone sin. He will bring in new laws, which will, not only contradict the Teachings of the Catholic Church, but which will go against all Christian laws" (source).
  

Was Pope Benedict forced to resign?

Last I heard he resigned willingly, and he lives peacefully in the Vatican.

SO............

The next time someone comes over you and tells you the world is ending and that Maria Divine Mercy said so.

Tell them.

 

 

Deacon who publicly ridiculed Pope Benedict answers to an email

Shared to me by TPC reader, Jeffrey.

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I receive the message you sent with the respect you intend and I thank you for that.

For the record, I did not mention Pope Benedict or any pontiff, all of whom I admire and respect. I did not say the red shoes were Prada. Here is the transcript of what was said as the image in question appears:

In our Church, and in others, some clergy will dress in finery for a good reason – so that when they come before God to give worship and praise they want to bring the best So that’s a good symbol. We do that kind of thing at the Easter Vigil. We get everything out of the closet – we bring out our best. [he missed out this part: Here is how bad it gets in our Church. *cue chuckles from the pews*....But some put on the red shoes and the flowing white linen and have the lace and the gold threaded vestment, because it is an issue of self esteem.  It is an issue of looking themselves up, as well.]

Please know that I did not in fact know that the image used was Pope Benedict. I am still not sure it is – I am curious – how do you know it is? [Seriously?!] I got the image from an image library as a result of searching for “fine vestments”. I chose the image because it was cropped and did not reveal who was wearing them.

I pray that one day Jeffrey situations like this can lead to dignified and respectful dialogue. [Dignified?  You publicly humiliated THE POPE!] I pray for unity in Church. [Duh!  Look who's talking!] I ask your prayers for me and our parish. I will pray for you as well.


Respectfully -

__________________

Deacon Sandy Sites

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Here is the image:

Is the deacon trying to make a fool out of Jeffrey or out of us who can clearly see the stemma or coat of arms in the sash?  Can you not clearly see that the papal coat of arms has a pallium with it?  Which pontiff has used the pallium in his coat of arms?

Deacon Sandy might have the best intentions but he is proudly foolish and ignorant to brandish his ignorance and well, foolishness by looking at the red papal shoes and liturgical finery as an issue of self-esteem. The red shoes are historical.  Tradition has it that these were an homage to the slippers given by Emperor Constantine to Pope Sylvester and were one of the oldest traditions of the Latin Church once the persecution ended. And it is red because the original papal color is RED, in honor of St. Peter the first pope who died a martyr. Similarly, he's completely oblivious that St. Augustine and St Thomas Aquinas (in Summa 83) to reserve the very best for the Mass since it's sharing in the Supreme Sacrifice of Calvary.  Even Sacrosanctum Concilium says it.

He is so foolishly proud of what he does not realizing that he is not in his right attire for the Mass!

He is not wearing a dalmatic, the proper vestment for a deacon who assists at Mass.

Even without the flimsy excuse, this deacon is obviously LYING about his intent and purpose in using that image for his homily.

Are external appearances indicative of a person's humility?

Does this deacon think that he can draw people back to the Church with that kind of public bashing during the Mass, the source and summit of Christian Life, of the former holders of the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?

Word of advice.  SHUT UP!

You would do less harm to Catholics by keeping your mouth shut!

Want to know why?

Look how joyfully full your seats in your church is!

The fruits of Vatican II or the fruits of ill-informed, pope-bashing deacons?

Or both?

Deacon publicly insults the Holy Father

No. It's not Pope Francis.  It's the pope emeritus.

And the deacon, a married deacon thinks that the pope wears Prada or that the former pope wears it because of self-esteem issues.

Oh..............yes.............

The guy just resigned and now obeys his successor.

And he thinks the old man has self-esteem issues.

Go to the 10:25 mark to see how he insulted the pope.

If we can have clerics like this insulting the former pope in a Mass, who needs the INC and Eli Soriano???

And in case the deacon doesn't know, those are not Prada shoes.

Next, the former pope is not wearing them anymore because, unless this deacon knocked his head on the cupboard, Benedict is not pope anymore.

Next, it is red because the color of the popes was red.  I guess he missed that one out in Church history.

Next, the finery was for good reason.  If he can see the former pope still wearing them, let us all wait in bathed breath.

Next, we all appreciate the beauty in art and in vestments because *drum roll* WE ARE FAITHFUL TO VATICAN II!

Don't ask the Chupungcan liturgist.  All they care about is you listen to them and buy their books, and that old washed out phrase "noble simplicity".  It is too simple to be simple.  It is drab.  And it is definitely not noble.

Write to the deacon and also write to his archbishop.  Show them the video and let them know that you are "scandalized".  It is in your right to call their attention.

Deacon Sandy Sites
Parish Director / Good Shepherd Parish / www.mygoodshepherd.org / +1.262.255.2035 Land / sitess@archmil.org

Most Reverend Jerome E. Listecki
Archbishop of Milwaukee
archbishoplistecki@archmil.org

A year since he sat up from Peter's Chair

We still miss you!

Pope Francis' first consistory

If you missed the entire ceremony, you can watch it here:

Papa Benedetto was in the house!

He took off his white zuccheto when he met Papa Francesco.  :)

Pope Francis' tweet for Pope benedict

Indeed the pope emeritus is a man of humility. He is an example for our times when men who crave for power, wealth and attention, cling on to positions as if it were a birthright, an inheritance.

May Pope Benedict's example teach us that humility is far beyond dressing simply. It takes guts to step down and leave the golden throne!

His example will SHAME people who cling on to positions of power, who think they are doing God's will, who think they are fulfilling their mandate, when in fact their only desire is to fulfill their lust and greed!

If you are looking for the humblest man, do not look at someone who dresses simply but is full of hate and pride.  Do not look for someone who always smiles and is friendly in public, but is in fact hateful and conceited, shunning the company of people he thinks are inferior than he is.

What these liberals wackos now enjoy and call as the Francis Revolution would not have happened if a humble worker in the Lord's vineyard names Benedict, did not have the courage and humility to admit that it is time to let go.

Benedict is the man of courage and humility.

Thank you Pope Francis for proclaiming that truth!

God bless our pope and our pope emeritus!