Council of Trent happened 450 years ago

We should have celebrated the 450th Anniversary of Trent, but liturgical experimentors like Fr. Geny Diwa and other Chupungcan liturgists tend to kill this Council and instead focus our attention on Vatican II which happened 50 years ago.

What is it with Trent that modern liturgists loath?

Wasn't this Council that trashed the Protestant Heresy?

Wasn't this Council that strengthened the Church?

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WASHINGTON — The Council of Trent — which firmly reasserted Catholic doctrine in the face of the Protestant Reformation — concluded its last session exactly 450 years ago on Dec. 4, inspiring a renaissance of Catholic art and spirituality that shaped the life of the Church for nearly half a
millennium.

“Trent created the form of Catholicism that evangelized the New World, that gave birth to many saints and that successfully met the challenge of the political madnesses of the 19th and 20th centuries. That’s a noble legacy,” said Catholic author George Weigel.  [Don't start me with the Vatican II comparison now.]

The Council of Trent was convened on Dec. 13, 1545, in Trento, Italy — 28 years after an Augustinian monk named Martin Luther nailed his Ninety-Five Theses to a church door, igniting the Protestant Reformation. The bishops, abbots and theologians at Trent responded to the issues raised by Luther and other Protestants in 25 sessions over nearly two decades, adjourning on Dec. 4, 1563.

Trent addressed some of the most fundamental questions of Christianity, such as the relationship between Scripture and Tradition and the nature and number of the sacraments.  [See that?  This Council was convened to address created by that monk!]

“One was the question of: how are we saved? Are we saved by grace alone or are we saved by works alone — good works alone? Or are we saved by some combination of grace and good works? Of course, the Lutherans said by grace alone,” said Jesuit Father John O’Malley, a Georgetown University historian and author of Trent: What Happened at the Council. “The Council of Trent wrestled with this problem and said we’re primarily saved by grace. We do not save ourselves, yet, in some limited way, some small way, with the help of grace, we do contribute to our salvation. We’re not puppets of grace. We have to cooperate in some way.”  [Yet after Vatican II, you hear liberals saying "we are all saved no matter what religion we join!"]

In addition to the debate over salvation, Trent confirmed the sevenfold number of the sacraments, set the canon of Old and New Testaments, declared that Scripture and Tradition are both authoritative, affirmed the sacrificial nature of the Mass and unhesitatingly renewed its commitment to the doctrine of transubstantiation, which holds that the substance of bread and wine in the Eucharist is wholly changed over into the substance of Christ’s body and blood.  [In Vatican II...Seven sacraments, check!  Canon of Old and New Testaments, check, still the same! Sacrificial nature of the Mass...check...though some liberals call it, the Meal of Love...transubstantiation...though some Vatican II liturgists call it "Christ's presence is in the people assembled."  Ugh!]

But Trent also launched a sweeping reform of Church life that affected everything from how people become married to how they learn about the faith, laying the foundation for institutions and practices that Catholics today take for granted, historians say.  [those are the keywords people!]

“They wanted to bolster the spiritual and moral character of the clergy, which had been one of the contributing factors to the Reformation. They wanted to kindle a similar kind of piety in laypeople. And they wanted to make the Church more missionary or evangelical,” said James Hitchcock, a historian at St. Louis University and author of History of the Catholic Church: From the Apostolic Age to the Third Millennium. 

“Now, I think most of us, even those who have been part of the post-Vatican II disorders, have lived with that as a kind of an ideal of what the Church ought to be, and that’s directly attributable to Trent.”  [That's because the Vatican II hijackers claimed the Council threw away Trent! And Super Council Vatican II started everything!]

One abuse that Trent ended was pluralism among bishoprics. “Let’s say you live in Pittsburgh, and you found out that your bishop was also functioning as bishop of Cleveland and as bishop of Minneapolis. That would … seem very, very strange. But the practice of ‘pluralism,’ as we call it, was very common before Trent,” Hitchcock said.  [We have a priest appointed to the CBCP yet he thinks he can control other bishops about how they celebrate Mass and even tell them to disobey the pope's motu propio Summorum Pontificum.  Yeah, we still have that pluralism.  His name is Fr. Genaro Diwa.  Write it down!]

Pluralism was possible, according to Father O’Malley, because dioceses were funded by a benefice — a medieval version of an endowment. Although it was against canon law, bishops would take the money and hire someone else to do the job, allowing them to serve in several dioceses while amassing a fortune, O’Malley said.

Another fundamental reform was the institution of the seminary, where candidates for the priesthood would be trained in theology, receive spiritual formation and be evaluated by their superiors for their suitability for the priesthood. “All of that sort of seems like common sense but, as a matter of fact, there were no seminaries prior to the 16th century,” Hitchcock said.

The Catechism — a Church-approved compendium of core teachings in terms accessible to the laity — also was borne out of Trent, according to Hitchcock. “Again, what an obvious thing to have, but they didn’t have one prior to the Council,” he said.

Trent left its mark on marriage too, mandating that priests be witnesses for marriages. The rule was targeted at secret marriages, in which couples would privately exchange vows, enabling one spouse to abandon the other, denying there ever was a marriage, according to O’Malley. [The priest is the witness for the Church.]

Trent’s anniversary is a time not only to celebrate its legacy, but also to reflect on lessons for the present.

“Trent shows us how the Church can meet the challenge of new cultural and political circumstances with intelligence and pastoral courage — and strong Church leadership,” Weigel said. [Whiccchhhh....we didn't have after Vatican II...]

Trent is an object lesson in the universality of the Church’s teachings and practices, according to Father Joseph Lee, academic dean at Our Lady of Guadalupe Seminary near Lincoln, Neb., which is run by the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP).

“This can be a healthy corrective to an over-emphasis on ‘inculturation,’ which has proved over the last few decades to have been as much a source of problems and confusions as of enrichment in the Church’s life,” he said. Catholics also would do well to emulate Trent’s focus on carefully defined principles as a “basis for theological work and formation,” Father Lee said.  [BOOM!!! Take that Chupungcan liturgists!  Inculturation created more problems.  It brought more confusion!  It lead to a breakdown of discipline in the Church's liturgy.]

Even as we celebrate Trent’s legacy, we should not go too far in applying it to the present, Weigel warned. “The mistake comes when we think we can freeze-frame Tridentine Catholicism, [oh yes! I agree!] as if it were a mode of being Catholic applicable to every cultural and historical circumstance,” he said.  [Hello SSPX?]

In his book Evangelical Catholicism: Deep Reform in the 21st-Century Church, Weigel argues that a new “evangelical” form of Catholicism is supplanting the “Counter-Reformation” Catholicism that developed out of Trent. “It’s instructive to note that the living parts of the world Church are the parts that have embraced the New Evangelization, while the dying parts are those still fighting the battle of the 1960s and 1970s,” Weigel said.  [Hmmm...]

Even the FSSP, known for its preference for the Mass that existed before Vatican II, is not “in the business of propping up Trent as some sort of definitive moment in the Church’s life — anymore than it would want to do so for Vatican II,” Father Lee said. Instead, he said, each of the Church’s councils must be understood within their historical contexts. [This is where liberals and even sedevacantists fall.  As if Trent is the only Council, as if Vatican II is the only Council.  Hermeneutic of rupture!]

“There is a danger nowadays of seeing the Church as somehow defined by a council or councils. Benedict XVI warned against this when he spoke of the danger of seeing Vatican II as a kind of ‘super council’ sweeping away everything that had gone before it and canonizing every development since it,” Father Lee said.  [Watch out for these theologians, nuns, priests and bishops who speak this way!]

The 450th anniversary of Trent is also an opportunity to dispel some popular myths about what it did, O’Malley said.

For example, the Council did not establish a distinctive “Tridentine” liturgy, according to Father O’Malley. “There is no such thing as a Tridentine liturgy. … The problem was manuscripts of the text of the Mass. And, of course, a lot of scribal errors had crept into different versions, and the same thing happened with printing.  So there was no control. So [the] Council of Trent said the liturgical books need to be revised so as to make them conform to each other. That’s all,” Father O’Malley said.

But it was the “same old Mass” that had been used for the previous seven or eight centuries, Father O’Malley said.  [And this same old Mass is the Mass celebrated under the 1962 Missal, of course over the course of time reforms were made with the prayers, etc...ending up with the 1962 Missal.]

Added Father Lee, “I know that the form of the liturgy the FSSP celebrates is commonly called the Tridentine liturgy, but that liturgy was only codified after Trent.”

Trent also did not mandate that the Mass be in Latin rather than in the “vernacular” local language, Father O’Malley said. The Council devoted all of one line each in two documents to the issue. “What it says is: It is wrong to say the Mass must always be in the vernacular,” Father O’Malley said. “In other words, Latin is legitimate. It doesn’t have to be in Latin. That’s very different than what people think Trent said.”

Trent did not ban the vernacular Bible either, according to Father O’Malley. The issue was raised during the Council, but “they decided not to decide,” Father O’Malley said. The Church later did impose restrictions on the vernacular — but those were the result of a document stemming from the Council, but not directly produced by it.

“That [document] was never discussed at the Council [and] never approved by the Council, so the Council Trent did not forbid vernacular Bibles,” Father O’Malley said.

The legacy of Trent is perhaps clearer today than it was just half a century ago.

“When Vatican II was going on and right after it ended, a lot of people were specifically saying that [it] was a repudiation of the Council of Trent,” Hitchcock said. According to proponents of this view of the Second Vatican Council, there would now be less emphasis among Catholics on doctrinal orthodoxy and on studying the Catechism, and seminary formation would be fundamentally revised because, previously, it was too rigid and had produced unworldly and somewhat irrelevant priests.

“Much effort was put into repudiating Trent as a way of implementing Vatican II,” Hitchcock said. “It took a generation of work by important theologians, of whom Pope Benedict was one, to emphasize the spirit of continuity which needs to exist rather than one of rupture.”  [because much of these theologians were either a.) depending their story on a myth or b.) was really out to reshape Catholicism.  Protestant Reformation from the inside folks!  And that is why liberals still hate Pope Benedict!]

That “hermeneutic of continuity” was recently reaffirmed by Pope Francis in a Nov. 19 letter to Cardinal Walter Brandmuller for the 450th anniversary of Trent.

“Graciously hearing the very same Holy Ghost, the holy Church of our age, even now, continues to restore and meditate upon the most abundant doctrine of Trent. As a matter of fact, the ‘hermeneutic of renewal’ … which our predecessor Benedict XVI explained in 2005 before the Roman Curia, refers not only to the Tridentine Council, but also to the Vatican Council,” Pope Francis wrote.

Of course, continuity implies both harmony with and change from the past. Indeed, were the Fathers of Trent to come back today, they would be “puzzled by a lot of things they saw,” Hitchcock said.

“And it would take some time to speak, to investigate and explain and so forth … to let them see the spirit of continuity which is there,” Hitchcock said. “We are always doing both: We’re maintaining continuity, and at the same time, we’re innovating in various ways.”


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For people my age, the 70s and 80s, the time when the Council was being implemented was the most notorious age for theologians and catechists.  I had to spend hours in the library reading books and theological commentaries about what Vatican II actually said and meant.

The first big question that came to our minds was "Did the Council really wanted a New Mass?"

It was a confusing age!  

But that was the year when we do not have the Internet!

Information today is at the tip of one's finger.  Liberals cannot hide what the Holy See actually said and actually meant.  We cannot be lied again with "This is what the Vatican said...or this is what must be done."

The laity are now more informed and more empowered.  The Code of Canon Law gives upon the lay the right to call into question erring clerics.

And that goes to erring liturgists!

After Vatican II, liturgists used their degrees and their influence to tell bishops what they want to see in the liturgy, to deface the liturgy, to introduce innovations not even conceived by the Council Father.

It was a confusing age.

In order to understand Vatican II, start with Trent...

In fact, read the Catechism of the Catholic Church.