tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8918598045168602139.post7942801164428367425..comments2024-02-28T04:48:59.561+08:00Comments on The Pinoy Catholic: Attacks on the Church in the Philippines intensifying!Pedro Lorenzo Ruizhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06817125203522413704noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8918598045168602139.post-8213143155286785652010-01-15T08:36:34.080+08:002010-01-15T08:36:34.080+08:00Did the Church really fail to bring back Rizal or ...Did the Church really fail to bring back Rizal or was he really adamant not to go back until the final moments of his life? Think about it. Historians such as Ocampo and Zaide wrote about this when priests visited Rizal inn Dapitan and in Fort Santiago to convince him to retract his views against the Church and most especially his association with Masonry.<br /><br />He may have held to heretic views but what the Church proclaims is what we believe in, right? So the Church says he is not a heretic so we stick on to that.<br /><br />I do not label him Mason if he is not a Mason. He was a Mason and his views were inspired by Masonry.<br /><br />These Doctors who you call will always be lay people in my eyes no matter what hand waving they do or how much water they sprinkle on each other.<br /><br />For the sake of being charitable, ok, let's call him Bishop then.AAAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15156566877512852332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8918598045168602139.post-89085706815275121042010-01-14T18:45:29.559+08:002010-01-14T18:45:29.559+08:00To defend the Catholic Church one needs not to glo...To defend the Catholic Church one needs not to gloss over some facts. In the Patronato Real, the colonial government and church were one. So the colonial Church too is actually responsible for Rizal's fate.<br /><br />Also Rizal is a rationalist [read His Letters to Father Pastells]. You did not cite Rizal's letters to Pastells. Here he admits his "faith is shipwrecked" as it expressed a clear departure from Catholic teaching. The Church did not say he was a heretic but he indeed held on to heretical views. Conservatives have the bad tendency to label people as "Masons", "heretics" just as the liberals label Catholics as "medieval" among other things.<br /><br />Rizal fell away from the Church. The Church failed to get him back. The Retraction's authenticity hasn't been resolved. <br /><br />Catholic apologists should not fall into logical inconsistencies like what these freethinkers often do.<br /><br />Oh BTW, it is uncharitable and rude to call Anglican bishops as "Mister". Not even the Holy Father does it, even today. The appropriate form of address is "Dr " for all Anglican bishops are conferred a Doctor of Divinity degree upon their consecration. Example: Vatican communiques will say<br />"Dr Rowan Williams, the Anglican Archbishop of Canterbury met with His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI at the Apostolic Palace.........." This respect in no way nullifies Apostolicae Curae.Ben Vallejohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02963290696331676531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8918598045168602139.post-89344518636482154682010-01-14T17:10:54.726+08:002010-01-14T17:10:54.726+08:00Nothing to apologize for Josemaria. I appreciate ...Nothing to apologize for Josemaria. I appreciate your updates.<br /><br />Keep the Faith! Defend Holy Mother Church!AAAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15156566877512852332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8918598045168602139.post-57441001381962612162010-01-14T13:34:03.266+08:002010-01-14T13:34:03.266+08:00I had to raise your attention,because it's not...I had to raise your attention,because it's not just the INC that is attacking the church,but also some hardheaded atheists here in our country<br /><br />hope you understand, my apologiesJosemaria Paulo Jeromino Martin Carvalho-Von Versterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00128928800453615354noreply@blogger.com