tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8918598045168602139.post7712512929564683850..comments2024-02-28T04:48:59.561+08:00Comments on The Pinoy Catholic: Forbes goes down the drainPedro Lorenzo Ruizhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06817125203522413704noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8918598045168602139.post-30475767052148782112010-11-14T10:25:53.804+08:002010-11-14T10:25:53.804+08:00@Dean Bocobo - I agree with your views that what h...@Dean Bocobo - I agree with your views that what happened at the cathedral is but the wrongdoings of our bishops. I have blogged about this in the past and I have expressed my frustration with the dilly dallying that our bishops have shown towards doctrinal and moral issues. I am also not surprised that some priests, like the Jesuits of Ateneo, have downplayed Humane Vitae and Evangelium Vitae in determining the right course in this debate. I am still waiting for more concrete steps from the CBCP to address this issue.<br /><br /><br />@Turn a Blind I - You wrote that majority of Catholics are for the RH Bill. Ok, so you posit that if the majority wants anything, then we must yield. So what's next? Murder? Abortion? If the majority wants it, then we get it? And you expect the Church, clergy and laity, to sit down and shut up, while the whole world goes up in flames? <br /><br />No, the Church will not turn a blind eye (pun not intended) and fiddle.<br /><br />The Church is NOT, I repeat, NOT against family planning. It is against artificial means!<br /><br />The hunger and poverty in our country is not caused by overpopulation. It is caused by social structures that prevent people from advancing.<br /><br />I have been all over the Philippines and our country is not lacking in able bodies who are willing to till the land in order to grow their own food. How can our simple farmers make both ends meet when middlemen and loan sharks make a living out of their desperation? How can farmers make a living out of their harvests when the government allows imported produce to come into the country.<br /><br />I have worked in the government sector and I have witnessed first hand how these people siphon government funds in the name of "civil service eligibility".<br /><br />No, Turn A Blind I, the country is not poor because of too many Filipinos. It is poor because we deserve the government that we have.<br /><br />We have 99 million souls who have the will to toil and earn a decent living. If only we are given the opportunity, then we can be like India and China.AAAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15156566877512852332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8918598045168602139.post-85048799298047261242010-11-13T22:06:23.199+08:002010-11-13T22:06:23.199+08:00I can't decide whether to LOL (laugh out loud)...I can't decide whether to LOL (laugh out loud) or to puke.<br /><br />These people, including the writer of that Forbes article, calls themselves as "intellectuals" but fails to to use their common sense.<br /><br />I am truly disgusted with them. They have PhD, wrote many theses. Supposedly, they should espouse objectivity. But no, because of their bigotry, they promote wrong theories that was debunked a long time ago.<br /><br />They chant...objectivity objectivity...science science...but they continue to ignore the scientific facts that contradicts their beliefs.<br /><br />This is only shows that wisdom can only come from God. Those who rebel against God will not only lose wisdom but also common sense.Ishmael F. Ahabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07278928907562589208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8918598045168602139.post-88288686121563608812010-11-13T20:31:10.667+08:002010-11-13T20:31:10.667+08:00That's a really lame way of trying to make an ...That's a really lame way of trying to make an argument against the post. I only got irritated reading your comments, especially the part where you point out non-catholics as the cause of the overpopulation. They only make up a small percentage of the population, so most of the people born are Catholic. The point her was making in saying that the Church carries some blame in the matter is that the Church has been opposing any form of education on human sexuality as well as contraception methods. Since PNoy assuming office, more than 600,000 babies have already been born. How many of them are unwanted and unplanned? If the bill was passed much earlier, some of the babies might have been planned and prepared for much better.<br /><br />The Malthusian theory may just be a theory, but the hunger and suffering in our country is a reality.<br /><br />I agree with your little side note that we are both Filipinos and Catholics, and I personally think the separation of Church and State is a little overrated. Nevertheless, I still believe that the population control is necessary. We need to inform and educate our population.<br /><br />The church should let the bill pass, and then conduct widespread campaigns informing and encouraging people to use natural family planning instead of artificial. Then, they would even help the government address the problems of overpopulation instead of attracting the ire of many Catholic Filipinos for what they are doing.<br /><br />The church should respect people's choices, and it seems clear that Filipinos strongly support the RH Bill.Turn A Blind Ihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16773005939731716408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8918598045168602139.post-43267703099436375072010-11-13T19:29:29.646+08:002010-11-13T19:29:29.646+08:00Sir,
I am a Stranger but as your Comment Mat rea...Sir, <br /><br />I am a Stranger but as your Comment Mat reads welcome, I'd like to express an opinion.<br /><br />Perhaps we need to exercise some Christian forebearance in the matter of the Forbes article. It is after all, our Hierarchy's doing that Carlos Celdran has gained such fame or notoriety. It is the Catholic Church that has dragged him into court for offending the religious feelings of the faithful --and thereby dragged itself--and Jose Rizal and Padre Damaso and all that colonial history -- back into the limelight. <br /><br />If we didn't like this tiny spotlight on Carlos Celdran, we will have nightmares over the Big Spotlight that is about to fall on the Philippine Catholic Church over this Manila Cathedral incident as a tragicomical footnote to the huge clerical paedophilia scandals in America and Europe. God forbid that some local pedophilia case should arise to add insult to injury!<br /><br />I sympathize with your very apparent and vituperative sense of frustration over what is only bound to grow in fame and notoriety throughout this Free World of ours. It wasn't like this not so long ago, when the Catholic Church wasn't just some Non-Government Organization. Not when she was the Government! <br /><br />In 1896, by now we would've shot down this cur, Carlos Celdran! Fuego!Deany Bocobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443168826029321831noreply@blogger.com