tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8918598045168602139.post5377316994685575376..comments2024-02-28T04:48:59.561+08:00Comments on The Pinoy Catholic: Liturgy Academicians express their support for Conciliar ReformsPedro Lorenzo Ruizhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06817125203522413704noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8918598045168602139.post-52361074755142455272012-04-20T17:24:26.710+08:002012-04-20T17:24:26.710+08:00The traditional celebration of the Mass of Paul VI...The traditional celebration of the Mass of Paul VI is one thing that I may agree such as ad orientem, Latin Mass Ordinary, singing of gregorian chant,chanting the propers etc. Though I do not question the validity of the Pauline Mass, I am concerned with its theology especially in the Offertory. Note that the one who is offered in the offertory is Jesus himself and NOT the "fruits of human hands". No wonder that, with this, protestant songs with lyrics "Lord I offer my life to you" are sung in offertory precisely because of the misunderstanding on the subject of the offertory. In the offertory, we do not offer ourselves by Christ himself. This is one thing that is erroneous with the Pauline Mass.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01836088315576142215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8918598045168602139.post-25503361768830629622012-04-20T01:21:55.577+08:002012-04-20T01:21:55.577+08:00Perhaps soPerhaps soJosemaria Paulo Jeromino Martin Carvalho-Von Versterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00128928800453615354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8918598045168602139.post-29722928548052427932012-04-19T23:41:27.126+08:002012-04-19T23:41:27.126+08:00Take note. The Council DESIRED not orders or comm...Take note. The Council DESIRED not orders or commands that the rites and prayers be made understandable. Are those attending the TLM now not understanding it?AAAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15156566877512852332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8918598045168602139.post-58003536058458259682012-04-19T23:40:12.372+08:002012-04-19T23:40:12.372+08:00I explained my point there Josemaria. I was not s...I explained my point there Josemaria. I was not saying that they should just assist in a TLM. That passage in SC has a lot of double meanings.AAAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15156566877512852332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8918598045168602139.post-69697945795314661452012-04-19T22:52:48.921+08:002012-04-19T22:52:48.921+08:00"The Council desired that the rites and praye..."The Council desired that the rites and prayers of the liturgy should be made understandable so that the faithful could grasp with ease the meaning of the ceremonies and prayers. In this way they are enabled to enter more fully into the mystery of Christ and the Church and be spiritually renewed" (cf. SC 34)<br /><br />"One of the things that the Council did not PRAY well for"<br /><br />What do YOU mean by That?<br /><br />Are you saying,we are Better Off Praying and Assisting Mass in Latin?Josemaria Paulo Jeromino Martin Carvalho-Von Versterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00128928800453615354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8918598045168602139.post-65934725907535601972012-04-19T22:26:49.734+08:002012-04-19T22:26:49.734+08:00The Old Mass will attract some people but I am of ...The Old Mass will attract some people but I am of the opinion that the traditional celebration of the Mass of Paul VI will still be the Mass for the many. Perhaps the Pauline Mass will be so reverent and formal enough that it will be closer to the Old Rite in spirit though the form will still be distinct. The liturgical way has been shown in the Anglican Use of the Roman Rite. An archbishop who celebrated the Anglican Use said that the spirt of the Tridentine Mass is in the Anglican Use but the Anglican Use will remain distinct from the Old Mass. The same can be said for the Pauline Mass.Ben Vallejohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02963290696331676531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8918598045168602139.post-10931188906602465742012-04-19T17:35:57.853+08:002012-04-19T17:35:57.853+08:00yeah! teach the people with your reform and once t...yeah! teach the people with your reform and once they are well aware of the real meaning of the Mass they will criticize you fooling them. Then they will start attending conservative masses then eventually Traditional Mass.. <br /><br />Oh! I think its a reform! From their masses to Traditional Mass! Reform of the Reform..pandzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01908839373696432547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8918598045168602139.post-42009952790972456692012-04-19T16:54:02.415+08:002012-04-19T16:54:02.415+08:00Let us get rid of Chapungco et al!!! I am tired of...Let us get rid of Chapungco et al!!! I am tired of their nonsense. Clearly, the point of this statement is this: "We resist the EF of the Roman Rite". And, they hide their ugly faces with the statement: "the Academy respects the use of the Tridentine Missal". C'mon, who are these people trying to fool?Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01836088315576142215noreply@blogger.com