Wednesday, May 29, 2013

TLM and Guido Marini to stay under Pope Francis!

Here is a blog entry from Sandro Magister, which was published in Italian.  This one here is from Google translate.

My Italian is a bit rusty so I settled for this one.


Among the bishops who went by Italian Francesco in "ad limina" visits, those of Apulia were the most talkative in reporting things said to them by the pope.

There was only the "revelation" - then partly contradicted by Father Federico Lombardi - the bishop of Molfetta Luigi Martella on two encyclicals on the road: the first, on faith, signed by the current pope, but written by his predecessor, the would still finishing up in his hermitage, and the second, on poverty, all at the hands of the reigning Pope.

There were also some rumors regarding the liturgy.

He started the Archbishop of Bari, Francesco Cacucci, which the Vatican Radio said that Pope Francis would have urged the bishops to "live the relationship with the liturgy with simplicity and without superstructures."

Then it was the turn of the Bishop of Conversano and Monopoli, Domenico Padovano, who told their clergy that the bishops had complained of Puglia with the pope on the work of division created within the Church by the champions of the Mass in the ancient rite. [I wish I had a dollar every time I read or heard that!  As if the new Mass did not create any division when it was introduced!  Ha!]

And what would they answered the pope?

According to reports by Monsignor Padovano, Francis would have urged them to be vigilant over extremism of some traditionalist groups, but also to build on the tradition and make it live in the Church with innovation.  [innovation?]

To illustrate this last point, the pope would bring their own example:

"You see? They say that my master of papal ceremonies [Guido Marini] is a traditionalist, and many, after my election, they invited me to lift it [remove him] from office and replace it [him]. [Bad translation.  Many liberals don't like Guido Marini.  I am pretty sure the other Marini would want to get back at the helm.]  Actually meant, I said no, because I myself could draw on its [his] preparation and traditional at the same time he can benefit, in the same way, most of my training emancipated. " [Hmmm...Liberal training.....he learns from me and I learn from him?]

If authentic, words are instructive about the liturgical spirit and style of celebration of the pope.

But not sure in what sense the bishops have interpreted the Puglia region.

Another of them, and one of Cerignola Ascoli Satriano, Felice Di Molfetta, a former president of the Committee of the CEI for the liturgy, in a message to his diocese wrote among other things:

"I did not fail to rejoice with the pope on the style of celebration that has taken, a style inspired by the 'noble simplicity' sanctioned by the Council, showing particular attention to the subject and which has suffered from its high-profile considerations theological and pastoral shared by all the members present.

"I have enjoyed so much for the dialogue created, Having occupied by a life in teaching and sacramental liturgical theology in capturing the interest of the Holy Father on this vital aspect of the Petrine ministry, which he exercised both in the celebrations is working in Santa Marta in those solemn as in the Vatican Basilica for the canonization of the 800 martyrs of Otranto: A Celebration contained in time and in his overall performance ritual.

"Papa Francesco, in the light of certain phenomena of the recent past in which they were recorded in liturgy quite a few drifts, urged us bishops, referring also some concrete examples, to live the relationship with the liturgical action, since the work of God , as true believers beyond every pompous ceremonialism, fully aware that the 'noble simplicity' of which the Council speaks, but it is not sloppiness Beauty, beauty with 'B' capital. "  [Those are full of meaning!  If I read it right, Pope Francis would want to go beyond the ceremonialism but not to the point of being sloppy.  Well, problem is, who determines what is too pompous and what is too sloppy.  That is why you have rules.  Those are the purpose of the rubrics.  Say the Black, Do the Red.]

But Francis Pope enlist in the ranks of the progressives in the liturgical field is at least risky. It does not appear at all, in particular, that he is hostile to the liberalization of the Mass in the ancient rite, determined by Benedict XVI with the motu proprio "Summorum Pontificum" in 2007.

While it is true, that Monsignor Di Molfetta that year was one of the most combative critics of the motu proprio, before and after its publication.

He judged the Mass in the ancient rite "incompatible" with the post-conciliar and busied himself, without success, because the CEI produce an interpretative note - strictly - the "Summorum Pontificum".


Seems like Msgr. Guido will definitely stay, which good for him and for those hoping for the retention of the hermenuetic of continuity in the liturgy espoused by Pope Benedict.

And at least Summorum Pontificum stays.


Liturgy is still a work in progress.

Especially when you have this guy around.

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