This POed me big time.
Fr. Montero says
"quoting authorities is a sign of intellectual prowess."Wow! Look at his avatar. He is wearing his academic garb. Now that is prowess, aint it? First of all Fr. Montero, if you are engaged in an intellectual discussion, being rude shows your characted. Engage the issue at hand. Don't go into name calling! If you are in an academic discussion, who in our green earth would you quote? If that were your maxim, then who would rely on? Poor academicians...poor lawyers...poor scholars...poor doctors...poor Anscar Chupungco...poor Piero Marini....poor Annibale Bugnini...they all quote authorities.
He further says,
"Assuming that card ratzinger said that "dancing is not a form of expression for the Christian liturgy", it is not a doctrinal statement."Yes, Father it is not. But it is a FACT. Dancing WAS NEVER a part of the Christian liturgy. It only became an addition, without the approval of authorities such as the Holy See, after Vatican 2. It was NEVER mandated by the Council nor was it ever endorsed by the Holy See. So where in the world did you get the authority to do so? From your bishop? Maybe. But remember, the bishop draws his authority from the universal authority of the Holy Father. You owe your obedience to your bishop and to the Pope. But I guess, you have problems with authority, do you?
"assuming that it is true, then we have to recourse to scriptures that showed David danced when he worshiped (even naked)"
Now this where the danger lies. This is the same argument my Born-again(st) (Catholic) Christian (?!) friend told me why they dance when they worship. First of all, let us put things in perspective. Kind David was dancing and worshiping OUTSIDE of the official Jewish liturgy, meaning he was dancing NOT when the High Priest was offering the sacrifice. Do not be fooled by liars such as this! Liturgical dance has been wonderfully inculturated to us by the Spanish missionaries. Look at the Sinulog of Cebu and the fertility dances of Rizal province. These were not forbidden by the Spanish missionaries who Christianized the islands but they were done NOT WITHIN THE MASS. This is where the liturgical bullies want you to believe. That is is OK to just do anything you want with the Mass.
"real liturgist [sic] know the difference between worship and simply rubricism"
Oh yeah, we too Father. Rubricism is going through the motion of the liturgy without internalizing what is going on. It is as if a robot is offering Mass. I have seen a lot of those. Homily would go on for 30 minutes but the Canon would be done in 10. Worship uplifts your spirit and draws you to the divine. It is not the singing and the dancing that uplifts you, but the worship itself. You can be drawn to the presence of Christ by a Mass without songs and definitely without the need for dancing.
By the way Father, did the people clap to praise the Lord or to praise the dancing of the children?
No need to quote authorities on that do we? It is a no brainer.
And oh just a reminder...
If you cannot follow a simple liturgical rule, how do you expect lay Catholics like us to follow what you preach at Mass. Live what you preach.
Don't worry. I did not quote any authority on the last one.